“[A] lot of the people who are going and getting four-year degrees, they’re not like engineers and doctors. They have effectively fake jobs,” Vice President JD Vance told podcast host Mike Rowe last week. This is ironic, given that the Constitution doesn’t even give the vice president a full-time job. The position carries just two responsibilities: breaking ties in the Senate and not dying. Every vice president has to decide how to fill the rest of their time. Al Gore championed emerging technologies and the environment. Dick Cheney massively expanded the surveillance state. Vance goes on podcasts to spread conspiracy theories.
In his 2016 memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance denounces conspiracy theorists as “fringe lunatics.” But once a paranoid ethos became nonnegotiable for an ambitious Republican, he changed his tune. Now, Vance appears to be the administration’s chief conspiracy communicator. This week, Vance went on Joe Rogan’s podcast to discuss the big lie of voter fraud, aliens, the deep state, Jeffrey Epstein and why so many people have accused him of being an antisemite.
“So I have, like, effectively unlimited access to information,” Vance boasted. But there’s a catch.
Vance’s mission is to keep low-propensity male voters and their idols, like Rogan, in the MAGA fold despite Trump hiding the Epstein files, breaking his promise of no new wars and failing to release any juicy details about extraterrestrials or the Kennedy assassination. That means walking a delicate line between validating the paranoids’ worldview and praising his boss.
“What is it like being the vice president?,” Rogan asked, hard-hitting as ever, “Like how much access do you have to information?
“So I have, like, effectively unlimited access to information,” Vance boasted. But there’s a catch.
“I’ve said that I am going to look into the UFO thing,” Vance explained. “And I’ve been saying that for a year and a half and I haven’t done it yet because I haven’t had the time.”
Vance insisted that he had been too busy trying to make Trump’s war with Iran as successful as possible and calling senators about the housing bill.
The vice president also agreed with his host that the Los Angeles mayoral race was “super sus.” The two men traded insinuations about Democrats recruiting homeless people to vote in the primary — without providing supporting evidence. (Even if that were true, homeless people don’t lose their voting rights, and it’s fair to assume those who did vote weren’t fans of Pratt, whose platform was putting the homeless in camps.) But proof was beside the point. This was an opportunity for Vance to champion the SAVE Act, Trump’s doomed voter ID legislation, and fume about how counting immigrants on the Census, as the Constitution requires, is stealing congressional representation from states with low immigration rates.
No conspiracy theory presented a more challenging balancing act for Vance than Epstein. Vance campaigned on releasing the Epstein files, only for Trump to try to cover them up.
“Most people seem to think [Epstein] was Mossad,” Rogan said.
“Yeah,” Vance replied, “Mossad or CIA or some other deep state.”
The job of the vice president may be fake, but the benefits are real.
Epstein was indeed a close friend of former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak (who has not been implicated in any crimes and now says he regrets their association).
If Epstein were a potential Israeli spy, however, you might think that the Trump Justice Department would have been more interested in finding out how he might have compromised high-level American officials, corporate leaders and celebrities. But apparently not. Vance did not elaborate on the reasons for this apparent disconnect, though he assured the audience, “I’ve asked were there, like, were there documents connecting Jeffrey Epstein directly to our intelligence agencies or anybody else’s? And the answer is, ‘No, but if that existed, it wouldn’t exist in 2026.’”
The job of vice president may be fake, but the benefits are real. MS NOW’s Carol Leonig and Vaughn Hillyard recently revealed that Vance’s Secret Service detail is “fed up” with the travel demands of Vance and his family. Had it not been for a thunderstorm, the Secret Service would have ferried Vance and his son to his son’s golf lesson by helicopter.. Vance should probably enjoy the perks of office while he can. He’s not delivering for the conspiracist base that he hopes will preserve his political longevity.
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